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49476. Hugo Wilkinson            Re: Pathetic Ioblix speeds
49477. Nick Lamburn              Re: What's on AFCD51?
49478. Peter Gordon              Boo!!
49479. Nick Lamburn              Re: What's on AFCD51?
49480. Ben Vost                  Re: Boo!!
49481. Sealey, M.                Re: What's on AFCD51?
49482. FREE Preview              Welcome
49483. Nick Lamburn              Re: What's on AFCD51?
49484. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Welcome
49485. Sealey, M.                Coolness
49486. Robert Johnston           Re: Welcome
49487. Robert Johnston           Re: What's on AFCD51?
49488. Sealey, M.                Re: What's on AFCD51?
49489. Robert Johnston           Re: What's on AFCD51?
49490. Sealey, M.                Re: What's on AFCD51?
49491. Samuel Byford             Re: What's on AFCD51?
49492. Sealey, M.                For Alex Chimchimeny-chim-chim-cheroo
49493. xatiminey                 Re: FTP Server
49494. Robert Johnston           =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF_=28Was=
49495. Phil Allen                Re: Mac Monitors - help!
49496. xatiminey                 Re: Rvlotinr (Was: What's o
 n AFCD51?)
49497. Phil Allen                Re: What's on AFCD51?
49498. Paul Laycock              Re: Welcome
49499. Mikey C                   Re: What's on AFCD51?
49500. Mark Bond                 Re: What's on AFCD51?
49501. Ben Vost                  Re: Keyboard PC
49502. Alkis Tsapanidis          Re: GLQuake
49503. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)
49504. Matthew O'Neill           Commodore started it...
49505. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Enthusiastic? Spare time?
49506. Matthew O'Neill           intuition on macs?
49507. Ben Vost                  Re: Enthusiastic? Spare time?
49508. Ben Vost                  Re: intuition on macs?
49509. Christopher Ross-Gill     Re: TinTin (Was: Amiga website)
49510. Robert Johnston           Re: Enthusiastic? Spare time?
49511. Sealey, M.                Re: intuition on macs?
49512. Sealey, M.                Re: GLQuake
49513. Pam                       Re: BT Internet
49514. Sealey, M.                =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5
49515. Paul Laycock              Re: TinTin (Was: Amiga website)
49516. Robert Johnston           =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_R=
49517. Sealey, M.                =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE
49518. Robert Johnston           =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF_=
49519. Samuel Byford             Re: BT Internet
49520. Sealey, M.                =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_R=E8v=F3lo=F
49521. Toffypops                 Re: Boo!!
49522. Robert Johnston           Re: BT Internet
49523. Samuel Byford             Re: Enthusiastic? Spare time?
49524. Toffypops                 Not much going on on my birthday...
49525. Samuel Byford             Re: BT Internet
49526. Robert Johnston           =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE
49527. Toffypops                 added...
49528. Nick Darley-Jones         Re: Pathetic Ioblix speeds
49529. George Davis              Lords of Chaos
49530. George Davis              Re: PowerUp Emulation (was GLQuake)
49531. Sealey, M.                =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE
49532. Sealey, M.                Re: added...
49533. Sealey, M.                TweakWB, WBCtrl, FBlit
49534. Ben Vost                  Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF?= (
49535. Robert Johnston           =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF_=
49536. Sealey, M.                =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_Re=3A_R=E8v=F3lo=F
49537. Ben Vost                  Re: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF(Was
49538. Allen Kong                PPC Emulation
49539. Bert Volders              Re: aweb spoofing
49540. fool                      Re: FTP Server
49541. Steven                    Re: GLQuake
49542. Chris Millar              WOA 2000 Shopping-list
49543. Oliver Esberger           Re: OS3.5 Emergency disk
49544. Ian Urie                  Re: OS3.5 Emergency disk
49545. Matthew O'Neill           Re: FTP Server
49546. Matthew O'Neill           Re: hosts
49547. Matthew O'Neill           Re: hosts
49548. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Welcome
49549. Matthew O'Neill           Re: What's on AFCD51?
49550. Matthew O'Neill           Re: What's on AFCD51?
49551. Matthew O'Neill           Re: What's on AFCD51?
49552. roger buckley             Re: What's on AFCD51?
49553. Tom Miles                 Re: The Spendathon 2
49554. Paul Cundle               Re: A4000 Query
49555. [e-mail]-onl Re: Clockport serial card woes
49556. Peter Hutchison           Re: PSP and IFF
49557. Rick Hodger               Re: The Spendathon 2
49558. Rick Hodger               Re: Why is this?
49559. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: A4000 Query
49560. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: The Spendathon 2
49561. Phil Allen                Re: Keyboard PC
49562. Alex Furmanski            Re: TinTin (Was: Amiga website)
49563. Oliver Roberts            Re: BT Internet
49564. Oliver Roberts            Re: BT Internet
49565. Alex Furmanski            Re: hosts
49566. Matthew Garrett           Re: Strange dates (Was  BT Internet)
49567. Alex Furmanski            Re: hosts
49568. Vincenzo Morra            Re: Fusion68k Cancled
49569. Sandy Brownlee            Re: FTP Server
49570. Sandy Brownlee            Door Wedge PC (Was: What's on AFCD51?)
49571. Sandy Brownlee            Re: PPC Emulation
49572. Sandy Brownlee            Re: FTP Server
49573. Jonathan M. Dudley        Re: TinTin (Was: Amiga website)
49574. Jonathan M. Dudley        Re: save editor for ADoom
49575. Anthony Prime             Serves me right (slightly OT)
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From: Hugo Wilkinson <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:56:23 +0000
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Subject: [afb] Re: Pathetic Ioblix speeds
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Hello Nick

> Can you help me?  I am setting really pathetic download speeds with
> my system.  I have an A1200 '040 25mhz, clock up card and an Ioblix
> 1200 serial card.
> I seem to get speeds of about 1500cps?  Is there anyway of testing or
> patching my system to get better speeds.  I am using a baud rate of
> 115200 (230400 unsteady!).

i am using an Ioblix with an ISDN line.. i'm getting speeds in excess of
8000cps on a 6400cps line..

i'm using the same processor.. i don't seem to be experience any
difficulties at all..

i found Genesis very easy to set up.. just select the relevant drvier from
the the DEVS: drawer and give it a GENERIC command set.. if your using ISDN
too, it may help to modify the INIT line with ATB4<CR>

cya
hugo



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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 05:01:02 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi,

> >
> > Shucks.  Well that has hit me quite hard.  Gawd Dammit!  :(  Will
> > Cloanto still be supporting Amiga Forever; or is that it, full
stop.
> >
> > Well looks like my next program plan is thus: a killer pain package
in
>
> You're going to use this "killer pain package" on people that have
stopped
> Amiga development in a bid to get them working on miggy software
again?
>
> ;-)

Oh God! :)  It gets worse, these awful typos of mine, it was meant to
be PAINT package! :))  Hey Matt (Neko), it was bad enough when I
confused my hands with another part of my anatomy (as a result of a
horrendous typo...).

Dammit.. :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: Peter Gordon <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 12:58:02 +0000
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Subject: [afb] Boo!!
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Hi,

I doubt anyone noticed, but I've been away on business in London for just=
 over two weeks, but now I'm back so I'm afraid my musings on this list a=
re too.

Aahh... I missed my Amiga /*so /*much :)


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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
so long and thanks for all the fish
      http://fly.to/Mr_Tickle
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Real meanings #11:
HTML: Hate This Microsoft Lameness




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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 05:04:48 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <[e-mail]>
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Hi

> > > > > Okay. We have the final release of Personal Paint on this CD.
> > >                      ^^^^^
> > >
> > > > .. although if they're willing to throw PPaint 7.1 to all
> > > > you magazine people, is that a sign that PPaint 8 is on the
> > > > way, or that they couldn't give a toss about us greasy Amiga
> > > > users anymore? :)
> > >
> > > See the above...
>
> I thought you meant Final Release of PPaint 7..

Same here.

> > Well looks like my next program plan is thus: a killer pain package
in
> > the authenticity of DPaint and PPaint.  Just gotta finish PS2k
first...
> > :)
>
> By the time you finish PS2K there'll be no Amiga left :) Where are
those
> graphics you were going to send me, too?

It's not easy when you're 16 programming a Word Processor, Database,
Spreadsheet, Organiser and Page Layout program with all the other stuff
on your own! Hee Hee!  :)  (I have enough faith the Amiga will still be
here in 2072 when PS2k will be ready! :)  Nah, this year!).  Sorry Matt
about the graphics, a virus wreaked havoc this weekend on  my machine;
and almost destroyed all of my PS2k backups.  However; I will send you
a list of what's needed and the dimensions.  I'm sorry about that, I
will endeavour to do that tonight! :)

> > And I have to figure out a gradient fill algoritm, what needs to be
> > done... :)
>
> Hmm.. I wonder what THAT could be for :) </injoke>

Hmm me too! :)

> > And I'll program it in C, perhaps I'll get an Amiga dev system when
> > they're released and program it for Elate.... :)
>
> Couldn't I tempt you with a dev box for Neutrino? :)

If it's free... :)
Nah, I wanna make a go of this Elate stuff, sounds really cool.... :)

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 13:06:38 +0000
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Hi Peter,

> I doubt anyone noticed, but I've been away on business in London for just
> over two weeks, but now I'm back so I'm afraid my musings on this list are
> too.

Sorry, *who* are you again?

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"I won't be on time", Tom said belatedly.




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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:09:40 -0000
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Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51?
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> > By the time you finish PS2K there'll be no Amiga left :) Where are
> > those graphics you were going to send me, too?
>
> It's not easy when you're 16 programming a Word Processor, Database,
> Spreadsheet, Organiser and Page Layout program with all the
> other stuff on your own! Hee Hee! :)

I'm sure that using Blitz can't be helping much, either. And age is
no measure of ability: which must mean you're either lazy or crap ;)

> Sorry Matt about the graphics, a virus wreaked havoc this weekend
> on  my machine;

*sigh*

> and almost destroyed all of my PS2k backups.  However; I will send you
> a list of what's needed and the dimensions.  I'm sorry about that, I
> will endeavour to do that tonight! :)

See you on IRC prolly?

> > > And I'll program it in C, perhaps I'll get an Amiga dev
> > > system when they're released and program it for Elate.... :)
> >
> > Couldn't I tempt you with a dev box for Neutrino? :)
>
> If it's free... :)

Free Beer or Free Speech?

> Nah, I wanna make a go of this Elate stuff, sounds
> really cool.... :)

/me kicks Nick from off his chair

Okay, then, how is it going to be cool?

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 05:23:54 -0800
From: "Nick Lamburn" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Matt,

> > > By the time you finish PS2K there'll be no Amiga left :) Where are
> > > those graphics you were going to send me, too?
> >
> > It's not easy when you're 16 programming a Word Processor, Database,
> > Spreadsheet, Organiser and Page Layout program with all the
> > other stuff on your own! Hee Hee! :)
>
> I'm sure that using Blitz can't be helping much, either. And age is
> no measure of ability: which must mean you're either lazy or crap ;)

Probably not in the long run, I wasn't really making a statement about
ability, just that I also have a lot on in life which also consumes a
great deal of time.

But I wish to move from Blitz, simply because it's proprietary, and C
isn't.  C does have lots of advatages as well...

> > Sorry Matt about the graphics, a virus wreaked havoc this weekend
> > on  my machine;
>
> *sigh*

But I will try to get what I can to you! :)

> > and almost destroyed all of my PS2k backups.  However; I will send
you
> > a list of what's needed and the dimensions.  I'm sorry about that, I
> > will endeavour to do that tonight! :)
>
> See you on IRC prolly?

Probably, about 7:30'ish or summink. :)

> > > > And I'll program it in C, perhaps I'll get an Amiga dev
> > > > system when they're released and program it for Elate.... :)
> > >
> > > Couldn't I tempt you with a dev box for Neutrino? :)
> >
> > If it's free... :)
>
> Free Beer or Free Speech?

Mmmm Free Beer... :)

> > Nah, I wanna make a go of this Elate stuff, sounds
> > really cool.... :)
>
> /me kicks Nick from off his chair

Owwww.. :)

> Okay, then, how is it going to be cool?

I'm not saying QNX isn't because it evidently offers many features
which do make it groundbreaking.  However I have a 'feeling' about
Elate which is hard to describe; but I feel it offers what is needed in
a truly revolutionay Kernel, OS whatever (IMO).  QNX offers some of
this Tao's stuff offers all of it.  It's hard to describe a feeling
like this, but I'm ready to follow where Amiga wants to go, luckily it
seems to be in the path or idea where i also want to go.  I was
somewhat dissappointed when Amiga last year chose Linux over QNX,
screamed bandwagon! :)

The Real Time features of QNX and Elate offer the potential to create
applications that are so fluid, and fast that the user is unaware of
delays, and processing times.  The Web could move from being a slow,
lethargic experience (for the majority), to a true show case of
multimedia and interaction.

QNX offers this, but IMO Elate offers more...

All the best,

Nick.



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 1 Mar 2000 13:31:33 +0000
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On Wed, 1 Mar 2000 08:18:01 -0500 (EST), FREE Preview ([e-mail]) wrote:

[snip!]

Cue Vikings ...

Kev

--
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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:37:01 -0000
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> > > > > And I'll program it in C, perhaps I'll get an Amiga dev
> > > > > system when they're released and program it for Elate.... :)
> > > >
> > > > Couldn't I tempt you with a dev box for Neutrino? :)
> > >
> > > Nah, I wanna make a go of this Elate stuff, sounds
> > > really cool.... :)
> >
> > Okay, then, how is it going to be cool?
>
> I'm not saying QNX isn't

I'm not saying it is, either. I'm asking what is so cool about Elate,
not which one you prefer. Why must everything be a competition
for you people?

> However I have a 'feeling' about Elate which is hard to describe; but
> I feel it offers what is needed in a truly revolutionay Kernel,

Bzzt! It doesn't need to be revolutionary to be "cool", or innovative.

In fact, if anyone cites something as good because it has the ability
to be revolutionary should be shot..

> OS whatever (IMO).  QNX offers some of
> this Tao's stuff offers all of it.

Tao offers nothing that couldn't be offered by QNX Neutrino, and
certainly Tao themselves offer nothing NOW that isn't offered by
Neutrino.

I think you're getting a bit mixed up: Amiga are the ones touting
coolness, and although Tao are the facilitators of cool, they
haven't done anything so "groundbreaking" yet, and that includes
the rather-lame Searching For Tao video: nothing I haven't seen
before a million  times on a million OSes on a million standard
graphics cards.

> The Real Time features of QNX and Elate offer the potential to create
> applications that are so fluid, and fast that the user is unaware of
> delays, and processing times.

If you think that is what Real Time means then you're wrong.

> The Web could move from being a slow, lethargic experience
> (for the majority), to a true show case of multimedia and
> interaction.

Or a true showcase of how slow the internet really is? From being
something people blame on connections to something that is
being realised as just plain crap technology?

> QNX offers this, but IMO Elate offers more...

Like WHAT? A FEELING?

All aboard for the "Amiga Religion Supporting Elate" movement ;)

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


------------------------------ message 49486 ------------------------------
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:38:10 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Fairhurst [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 13:32
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: Welcome
>
> Cue Vikings ...

Lovely Spam, Wonderful Spam!
Lovely Spam, Wonderful
Spam, spaaaaaam, Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam,
spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!!!

Sorry, Couldn't resist.
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


------------------------------ message 49487 ------------------------------
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:44:37 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Lamburn [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 13:24
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51?
>
> Hi Matt,

Well, I'm not Matt, but I'm answering anyways...

> > > Nah, I wanna make a go of this Elate stuff, sounds
> > > really cool.... :)
> >
> > /me kicks Nick from off his chair
>
> Owwww.. :)
>
> > Okay, then, how is it going to be cool?
>
> I'm not saying QNX isn't because it evidently offers many features
> which do make it groundbreaking.  However I have a 'feeling' about
> Elate which is hard to describe; but I feel it offers what is
> needed in
> a truly revolutionay Kernel, OS whatever (IMO).  QNX offers some of
> this Tao's stuff offers all of it.  It's hard to describe a feeling
> like this, but I'm ready to follow where Amiga wants to go, luckily it
> seems to be in the path or idea where i also want to go.  I was
> somewhat dissappointed when Amiga last year chose Linux over QNX,
> screamed bandwagon! :)
>
> The Real Time features of QNX and Elate offer the potential to create
> applications that are so fluid, and fast that the user is unaware of
> delays, and processing times.  The Web could move from being a slow,
> lethargic experience (for the majority), to a true show case of
> multimedia and interaction.
>
> QNX offers this, but IMO Elate offers more...

Hmmm... Are there any men in white coats after you, offering a nice soft
room in a big white house? Both systems are either incomplete or in their
infancies, and no real conclusions can really be drawn about either of them
until they're seen working "in the wild". Of course you'll only ever see the
best parts of the system... the Exciting stuff... They're trying to sell it
to you. That's their job! Each and every system has it's own advantages and
disadvantages. It's a matter of Weighing up all these advantages and
disadvantages...

To sum this up?

Wait and see...

Of Course, this is all IMH(umble)O
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
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------------------------------ message 49488 ------------------------------
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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:50:01 -0000
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> Hmmm... Are there any men in white coats after you, offering
> a nice soft room in a big white house? Both systems are either
> incomplete or in their infancies,

Bzzzztt! The technology used in Neutrino has been around for
ages, and has been proven in many areas. Neutrino 2 just got
released (just the kernel), so that's being proven NOW.

> To sum this up?
>
> Wait and see...

Yes! And don't jump at every Elate or Neutrino feature like
it's the best thing since sliced bread, or revolutionary,
because everything has at some time been done before
(in Neutrino's case it's because QNX do that kind of thing
a lot, in Elate's case it's because all the technology they stand
to use is going to be highly-available public technology
like Bluetooth and HAVi)

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


------------------------------ message 49489 ------------------------------
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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:53:15 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 13:50
> To: '[e-mail]'
> Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51?
>
> > Hmmm... Are there any men in white coats after you, offering
> > a nice soft room in a big white house? Both systems are either
> > incomplete or in their infancies,
>
> Bzzzztt! The technology used in Neutrino has been around for
> ages, and has been proven in many areas. Neutrino 2 just got
> released (just the kernel), so that's being proven NOW.

But those "Many Areas" are BIG corporations (NASA etc.), AFAIK it hasn't
really been tested in the "Home" Environment as of yet...

> > To sum this up?
> >
> > Wait and see...
>
> Yes! And don't jump at every Elate or Neutrino feature like
> it's the best thing since sliced bread, or revolutionary,
> because everything has at some time been done before
> (in Neutrino's case it's because QNX do that kind of thing
> a lot, in Elate's case it's because all the technology they stand
> to use is going to be highly-available public technology
> like Bluetooth and HAVi)

The problem is remaining compatible whilst providing "Revolutionary"
features. Often the two don't work hand-in-hand.
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


------------------------------ message 49490 ------------------------------
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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 13:58:43 -0000
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> > Bzzzztt! The technology used in Neutrino has been around for
> > ages, and has been proven in many areas. Neutrino 2 just got
> > released (just the kernel), so that's being proven NOW.
>
> But those "Many Areas" are BIG corporations (NASA etc.),
> AFAIK it hasn't really been tested in the "Home" Environment
> as of yet...

There are a few webpad type thingies that run Neutrino.. that's
homey enough for me. If you mean as a desktop machine: the
desktop machine (although not the Desktop Metaphor) is
being phased out.

Go and search for the "Ottoman" PC - it's like a footstool with
a PC inside it!

> The problem is remaining compatible whilst providing "Revolutionary"
> features. Often the two don't work hand-in-hand.

Remaining compatible with what? Windows? The Amiga? Your
PC hardware?

And it doesn't NEED to be revolutionary to be good. Collas is gone
now, you don't NEED to keep saying that dumb, pointless, MEANINGLESS
word.

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 06:00:14 -0800
From: "Samuel Byford" <[e-mail]>
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> It's not easy when you're 16 programming a Word Processor, Database,
> Spreadsheet, Organiser and Page Layout program with all the other
stuff
> on your own! Hee Hee!  :)  (I have enough faith the Amiga will still
be
> here in 2072 when PS2k will be ready! :)  Nah, this year!).  Sorry
Matt
> about the graphics, a virus wreaked havoc this weekend on  my machine;
> and almost destroyed all of my PS2k backups.  However; I will send you
> a list of what's needed and the dimensions.  I'm sorry about that, I
> will endeavour to do that tonight! :)
>

Hi Nick,

Whats this PS2k your all mentioning???

Some sort of developer tool it sounds like, or is it a set of
mini-programs that can be incorporated into a larger program to do
certain things. (Plug-ins in other words)

TTFN

Bifford the Youngest




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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:01:34 -0000
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Can you mail me those Kaffe URL's? I can't find them
anywhere, and the eGroups site is being overly hostile
to me. Thanks.

--
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Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:04:32 -0800
From: "xatiminey" <[e-mail]>
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Sealey, M. wrote:
>
> Let me just make one point clear: needlessly bashing certain
> software houses because they don't agree with your high and
> mighty (and also slightly naive)
> view of the world, does NOT
> make you big, tough, or sexy.
Needless bashing is fun, just like mindless violence and Carmageddon and
making music with no key or structure (or anything else which works).
I don't do it very often.
I'm not naive - I'm just tired of tring to make sense of it all, tired
of striving to be right all the time and I'm an idealist.
My view of the world is from a realistic perspective. I just never say
anything about it.
I'm not big, tough or sexy. I have never thought that I am. I'm also
very crap at arguing. But I know ppl who are very good at it, so I try
and divert attention to them.
>
> It makes you look like a big, attention grabbing fool.
I wasn't trying to grab attention. I try to deflect attention away from
my self.

>
> If you have something constructive to say, say it. If it's
> something derogatory to Microsoft or Windows, or
> McDonalds or Burger King TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LIST.
>
You forgot Disney and all the other capatalist, fascist, coporate
bastards! *ahem*

---
Nick Lamburn wrote:
> In a debate to qualify why you dislike MS (if you do), you need to, I
> hate MS because and give a justified answer.  Amiga owners themselves
> get peeved if someone simply says 'Amigas are crap', PC owners are the
> same.  You need to justify why you use an Amiga and why you dislike the
> PC, simply saying 'they're crap' is derogatory and the key way to loose
> an argument.
>
I agree. I do. This is all cos of one 'off the cuff' comment, which was
not a serious remark. Unfortunately the limits of email distorted its
meaning. Sorry about that, everyone.

> Indeed it's fair to criticise anything, so long as it remains relevant
> and has a good justified reason.  I'd say there are three types of
> Amigan: those who are anti-PC full stop, liberal Amigans who see the
> merits of other systems, and those who are pro all systems to a certain
> extent.  I'd say I'm in the middle.  I would dearly love to see
> (something not as quirky or cumbersome though) something of Word and
> Excel's calibre on the Amiga.  Perhaps my Platinum Suite 2000 is some
> way there already?  I dunno.
>
I would say I was actually near the middle-top area. No, really. But my
experience with microsoft stuff stinks, and I live in an environment
where I get heckled simply for not going around saying "Bill gates is
god, I love him and Microsoft only want me to have the most wonderful
time of my life. Hurrar!" So I compensate. I don't mean it, and when I
argue in earnest I use proper justifiable arguments (unlike others
around here who say "everyone uses windows 95 so it must be good" and
when I argue against that they (effectively) say "I'm right and you're
wrong, so there". Can you see my situation? Its made me bitter and
there's nothing I can do.

=(

---

Btw - Please don't anyone judge anyone else on this list. Certainly in
my case what you see here can be quite urepresentative of who I am and.
Different aspects of someones personality can arrise when faced with the
"Re:Mail" window.
I suspect this is the case for most ppl.

Anyway, back to the point....

> > but ye already got a TCP/IP link.
> Then just open a telnet link then :)
Tch, why didn't you just say in the first place then? =)

>
> > and you get even faster transfer rates with PC2Amigas custom cable.
>
> Errmm.. if you really think so, Alex.
>
Thats what the docs say. According to them (and dont' get me wrong - I
don't think theyre gospel, and I'm not saying they're right) you get
about 10kBps faster rates. Something to do with using all 8 lines
instead of just 4, as in the LapLink cable.

I've never tried it, so I can't really comment.

-curry (was about to write something which would accidentally offend
even more ppl)


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 14:13:17 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 13:59
> To: '[e-mail]'
> Subject: [afb] Re: What's on AFCD51?
>
> > > Bzzzztt! The technology used in Neutrino has been around for
> > > ages, and has been proven in many areas. Neutrino 2 just got
> > > released (just the kernel), so that's being proven NOW.
> >
> > But those "Many Areas" are BIG corporations (NASA etc.),
> > AFAIK it hasn't really been tested in the "Home" Environment
> > as of yet...
>
> There are a few webpad type thingies that run Neutrino.. that's
> homey enough for me. If you mean as a desktop machine: the
> desktop machine (although not the Desktop Metaphor) is
> being phased out.
>
> Go and search for the "Ottoman" PC - it's like a footstool with
> a PC inside it!

But how *Expandable* are they? As expandable as a monitor...

> > The problem is remaining compatible whilst providing "Revolutionary"
> > features. Often the two don't work hand-in-hand.
>
> Remaining compatible with what? Windows? The Amiga? Your
> PC hardware?

99% of the home computing market is running using Proprietary systems
(PCI/AGP/ISA Etc.). If a system come out that doesn't use one of these
systems, it falls over (Amiga (Zorro), Archimedes (Acorn SlotII)). The "Next
Big Thing" is going to have to be compatible with the last "Big Thing".
Systems that aren't, Die. AMD's Athlon's only selling because Intel Goofed
and withdrew SlotI Pentium III's, the Celeron was only held afloat by it's
Cheapness, the new "Flip-Chips" are not moving, and Intel's having to Bundle
them all with slockets... All cases of Compatibility forcing something to
conform, But before someone says it, Standards DO change. How many PCI
Graphics cards are there now? How many *New* ISA Soundcards?
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
I think I'll leave this here -->           IMHO


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 06:19:14 -0800
From: "Phil Allen" <[e-mail]>
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Tudor Davies said:
> Get the model number and I will tell you it's specs (or where to look)
>

Okay, for your technical enjoyment, here it is:

 Apple 1705, apparently, the guy said he thinks it is a multiscan but
he's not sure.

Regards, Phil



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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 14:23:39 -0800
From: "xatiminey" <[e-mail]>
References: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B2BA9EFA@THE_EXCHANGE>
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Robert Johnston wrote:
> 99% of the home computing market is running using Proprietary systems
> (PCI/AGP/ISA Etc.). If a system come out that doesn't use one of these
> systems, it falls over (Amiga (Zorro), Archimedes (Acorn SlotII)). The "Next
> Big Thing" is going to have to be compatible with the last "Big Thing".
> Systems that aren't, Die. AMD's Athlon's only selling because Intel Goofed
> and withdrew SlotI Pentium III's, the Celeron was only held afloat by it's
> Cheapness, the new "Flip-Chips" are not moving, and Intel's having to Bundle
> them all with slockets... All cases of Compatibility forcing something to
> conform, But before someone says it, Standards DO change. How many PCI
> Graphics cards are there now? How many *New* ISA Soundcards?

Yep, the best way to change standards like card slots is to tack the old
ones on to a mid-way machine/program until all the old technology is
replaced with new compatible technology. Then you dump the old tech in
the next lot of machines/programs.
A bit like starship upgrading in Stars!. Well... actually its not, but
its the thought that counts.

-curry (trying to be constructive)


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 06:32:35 -0800
From: "Phil Allen" <[e-mail]>
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Matt Sealey wrote:

>
> There are a few webpad type thingies that run Neutrino.. that's
> homey enough for me. If you mean as a desktop machine: the
> desktop machine (although not the Desktop Metaphor) is
> being phased out.
>
> Go and search for the "Ottoman" PC - it's like a footstool with
> a PC inside it!

Sort of OT, has anyone seen amiga.org recently? You gotta check out the
news on the "revolutionary zero-footprint PC" made me laugh ;)

Regards, Phil



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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 07:05:20 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Robert,

> > Cue Vikings ...

> Lovely Spam, Wonderful Spam!
> Lovely Spam, Wonderful
> Spam, spaaaaaam, Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam,
> spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
M!!!

<VOICE PITCH="HIGH">"Shut up! Shut up!"</VOICE>

;)

Paul Laycock



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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 07:16:23 -0800
From: "Mikey C" <[e-mail]>
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"phil allen" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49497
> Matt Sealey wrote:
>

> Sort of OT, has anyone seen amiga.org recently? You gotta check out
the
> news on the "revolutionary zero-footprint PC" made me laugh ;)
>
Made me laugh too! Revolutionary? Hardly :)

Unfortunatley the Windoze Sheep will think it so.

Regards

Mikey C




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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:32:58 +0000
From: Mark Bond <[e-mail]>
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> > Sort of OT, has anyone seen amiga.org recently? You gotta check out
> the
> > news on the "revolutionary zero-footprint PC" made me laugh ;)
> >
> Made me laugh too! Revolutionary? Hardly :)
>
> Unfortunatley the Windoze Sheep will think it so.

And it wasn't even unique to Amiga either. I mean, Amstrad's, Speccy's,
Commodore 64's and too many more to mention were all arranged this way (even
the BBC's)

Mark



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:30:36 +0000
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Hi Mark,

> And it wasn't even unique to Amiga either. I mean, Amstrad's, Speccy's,
> Commodore 64's and too many more to mention were all arranged this way
> (even the BBC's)

There have been keyboard PCs before too, so it's hardly a novelty.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Whhhhooooooooooooooooooooo?!!!?!?!




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From: Alkis Tsapanidis <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:44:00 +0300
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Hi

> Quake Exe | Version   | 480x384 | 800x600 | ScreenDepths |
> ----------+-----------+---------+---------+--------------|
> AWinQuake | 0.7       | 15.2    |  9.2    |  15 + 8      |
> GLQuake   | 1.0       | 22.0   | 12.0    |  15 + 15     |
> QuakePPC  | 1.09      | 20.0   |  9.4    |   8 + 8      |
> QuakeWOS  | 1.09      | 20.2   |  9.7    |   8 + 8      |
> FastQuake | release 5 | 14.8   | 11.4    |   8 + 8      |

This is not actually right.I get 35fps on my AGA 1200 with PPC603e
240MHz in 320x512 or 640x256.on 640x512 I get 9fps.BUT
on a friends Amiga with a 240MHz PPC and a BVision  FastQuake
runs at 27fps
               Bye
--
Amiga RULEZ in Greece TOO!!



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:47:05 +0100
In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B2BA9EE3@THE_EXCHANGE>
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Hi Robert

> Also, a Cheap TV-Movie has the same "Feel" to it, as they're shot at 25fps
> to save on production costs (Half the Video Tape, y'see)...

Ummm, no. They still use the same tape, just different cameras which work
differently. Tansferring celluloid to magnetic tape just has the movie feel
to it, but 25fps and 50fps both use the same amount of tape

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

 Needs another brain to make half-wit.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:24:25 +0100
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Hi

Workbench 3.0 User's Guide, page xv, paragraph 4, 4th from last word.

Did we start we start the term _multimedia_ for a computer which move gfx
and make a bleep at the same time?

Mash
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Alcohol, Caffeine, Nicotine, Chocolate: The 4 Food Groups.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:44:26 +0100
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On 29-Feb-00, Hugo Wilkinson wrote:

> If your an Amiga enthusiast and have some spare time, then e-mail me
> please..

Do you want to be a bit more specific, else you'll end up with 900 odd
people pleading for your time =)

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

My other computer is a piece of crap, too.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:07:16 +0100
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Hi

Could someone with an imac (ie. has no floppy drive) tell me if any programs
have a floppy disk icon for saving a file? I bet there is....

Mash
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Drop the leash, we are young -Pearl Jam







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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:56:30 +0000
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Hi Matthew,

Your clock is wrong... please don't post unless you fix it!

> On 29-Feb-00, Hugo Wilkinson wrote:

>> If your an Amiga enthusiast and have some spare time, then e-mail me
>> please..

> Do you want to be a bit more specific, else you'll end up with 900 odd
> people pleading for your time =)

> Mash -

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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friends. If they're OK, you're it.




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:58:09 +0000
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Hi Matthew,

> Could someone with an imac (ie. has no floppy drive) tell me if any
> programs have a floppy disk icon for saving a file? I bet there is....

What?! Do you mean in the file requester? Then no, it doesn't, but then the
standard Mac file requester doesn't rely on icons.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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                          A. Cod




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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:46:23 +0000
From: Christopher Ross-Gill <[e-mail]>
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Paul Laycock wrote:
>
> Or how about the old game TinTin which was released about the same
> time as Batman? I think thats a bit of a stronger link! ;)

There was a Tintin game?  What type of game was it?  Hopefully it wasn't
a platformer in the style of Batman :-)

- Chris



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:01:45 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Vost [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 15:57
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: Enthusiastic? Spare time?
>
> Your clock is wrong... please don't post unless you fix it!
<SNIP>

Ben, Was it really necessary to quote his entire message to give this one
line answer that had nothing to do with the message anyway?
--
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:07:34 -0000
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> Hi
>
> Could someone with an imac (ie. has no floppy drive) tell me
> if any programs have a floppy disk icon for saving a file? I bet
> there is....

There is in Office 98 and all the Microsoft stuff. I'm sure it's in
AppleWorks (formerly ClarisWorks). Then again, it's *representing*
an action, not dictating one.

It's a DISK, not just a floppy disk. Could be a Zip disk. Could be
an LS120 disk. Could be anything.

And hovering over the icon shows it's true nature: SAVE.

Someone needs to look up the word "icon" and the word "metaphor"

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:10:33 -0000
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<rant>

> > Quake Exe | Version   | 480x384 | 800x600 | ScreenDepths |
> > ----------+-----------+---------+---------+--------------|
> > AWinQuake | 0.7       | 15.2    |  9.2    |  15 + 8      |
> > GLQuake   | 1.0       | 22.0  =B9 | 12.0    |  15 + 15     |
> > QuakePPC  | 1.09      | 20.0  =B2 |  9.4    |   8 + 8      |
> > QuakeWOS  | 1.09      | 20.2  =B2 |  9.7    |   8 + 8      |
> > FastQuake | release 5 | 14.8  =B3 | 11.4    |   8 + 8      |
>=20
> This is not actually right.I get 35fps on my AGA 1200 with PPC603e
> 240MHz in 320x512 or 640x256.on 640x512 I get 9fps.BUT
> on a friends Amiga with a 240MHz PPC and a BVision  FastQuake
> runs at 27fps

<kidding> Shut up shut up shut UP you big lardy QUAKE FREAKS! =
</kidding>

Neither 320x512 or 640x256 are listed in the table. Neither is 640x512.
Of course the numbers are wrong for those resolutions: they aren't =
listed.

I think next time you'd do well to READ the posts you reply to, and on
the off chance you may well UNDERSTAND one.

</rant>

--=20
Matt Sealey [e-mail]=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester



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From: Pam <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:16:08 +0000
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Hello Oliver,

> I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned here today...  BT Internet
> are now offering (as of 1 March) 0800 calls on weekday evenings
> (6pm-midnight) as well as at weekends.  What's more, they've reduced
> their subscription charge to =A39.99 per month.  Too good to be true?
> Maybe :)

OK, stupid question time.....

Can I set up my Amiga (via NetConnect) to access this? Or does it need
special software that only runs from a PC?

TIA,

Pam.

-- =

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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:17:29 -0000
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> > > > Bzzzztt! The technology used in Neutrino has been around for
> > > > ages, and has been proven in many areas. Neutrino 2 just got
> > > > released (just the kernel), so that's being proven NOW.
> > >
> > > But those "Many Areas" are BIG corporations (NASA etc.),
> > > AFAIK it hasn't really been tested in the "Home" Environment
> > > as of yet...
> >
> > There are a few webpad type thingies that run Neutrino.. that's
> > homey enough for me. If you mean as a desktop machine: the
> > desktop machine (although not the Desktop Metaphor) is
> > being phased out.
> >
> > Go and search for the "Ottoman" PC - it's like a footstool with
> > a PC inside it!
>
> But how *Expandable* are they? As expandable as a monitor...

As expandable as any old PC - the lid of the "footstool" flips up
to reveal a kinky LCD monitor, and the keyboard is embedded
in the stool like a normal laptop one. Obviously the "stool"
houses all the components, so they'll prolly be low-powered
laptop ones which are expensive, but just as upgradable as
any standard PC..

> > Remaining compatible with what? Windows? The Amiga? Your
> > PC hardware?
>
> 99% of the home computing market is running using Proprietary
> systems (PCI/AGP/ISA Etc.). If a system come out that doesn't use
> one of these systems, it falls over (Amiga (Zorro), Archimedes (Acorn
> SlotII)). The "Next Big Thing" is going to have to be compatible with
> the last  "Big Thing".

Right, an average home system is going to flop unless it has PCI
and/or AGP on it. We can agree on that. But what makes you think
either Amiga or QSSL are planning on targetting those markets in
a big way?

Surely the world is shifting into PDA's now? And laptops and Palmtops?
LCD screens and pen-devices?

As long as your device is well equipped from the start, you can do
anything with it for a long long time. I can't see the original Palm Pilots
being too obselete now that a colour one is out, they all still work just
as well in b&w.

Now add a USB port to one and you have an uber-PDA. Standards
compliant, can we go home now?

With laptops, you hard-wire the graphics and sound into it, as long
as it's sufficiently low-power (Crusoe?) and sufficiently high-output
(the newer generation of gfx chips) then it'll last practically forever,
you aren't going to need cutting edge anything for something which
is based on portability.

PCI? AGP? What makes you think they WON'T support them? But also
what makes you think they'll NEED to?

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:24:28 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Christopher,

> > Or how about the old game TinTin which was released about the same
> > time as Batman? I think thats a bit of a stronger link! ;)
>
> There was a Tintin game?  What type of game was it?  Hopefully it
wasn't
> a platformer in the style of Batman :-)

Sorry to break it to you like this, but yeh! Its that only way anyone
ever did licenses... ;) I think it was in AF5. Never owned (or played)
the game, mind you!

Paul Laycock



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:31:45 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 16:17
> To: '[e-mail]'
> Subject: [afb] RE: [afb] R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF (Was: What's on =
AFCD51?)
>=20
> With laptops, you hard-wire the graphics and sound into it, as long
> as it's sufficiently low-power (Crusoe?) and sufficiently high-output
> (the newer generation of gfx chips) then it'll last=20
> practically forever,

Notice a Trend here? Didn't the Amiga do the same thing? Isn't that =
what got
us into this mess?
--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:35:46 -0000
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Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF_=28Was=3A_What=27s_on_AFCD5?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?1=3F=29?=
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> > With laptops, you hard-wire the graphics and sound into it, as long
> > as it's sufficiently low-power (Crusoe?) and sufficiently
> > high-output (the newer generation of gfx chips) then it'll last
> > practically forever,
>
> Notice a Trend here? Didn't the Amiga do the same thing?
> Isn't that what got us into this mess?

No, if you read back you'll find that Commodore went tits up, which
got us "into this mess". If the Amiga had been left to advance, it'd be
just like the Macintosh is now.. or the PC.. or both?

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:41:16 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 16:36
> To: '[e-mail]'
> Subject: [afb] RE: [afb] RE: [afb] RE: [afb] =
R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF=20
> (Was: What's
> on AFCD51?)
>=20
> > > With laptops, you hard-wire the graphics and sound into=20
> it, as long
> > > as it's sufficiently low-power (Crusoe?) and sufficiently=20
> > > high-output (the newer generation of gfx chips) then it'll last=20
> > > practically forever,
> >=20
> > Notice a Trend here? Didn't the Amiga do the same thing?=20
> > Isn't that what got us into this mess?
>=20
> No, if you read back you'll find that Commodore went tits up, which
> got us "into this mess". If the Amiga had been left to=20
> advance, it'd be
> just like the Macintosh is now.. or the PC.. or both?

Would it? Yes, I admit Commodore went (To borrow your metaphor) "Tits =
Up",
but the problem with integrated Hardware is that it becomes Obsolete =
very
quickly, and is VERY difficult to change. Look at PC Laptops. They have =
a
Life Expectancy of 4 Months (From the mouth of both a Toshiba and an HP
Rep)!

Do we really want to fall into that trap?
--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:46:02 -0800
From: "Samuel Byford" <[e-mail]>
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> > I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned here today...  BT Internet
> > are now offering (as of 1 March) 0800 calls on weekday evenings
> > (6pm-midnight) as well as at weekends.  What's more, they've reduced
> > their subscription charge to =A39.99 per month.  Too good to be true?
> > Maybe :)
>

Oohh,

I may just consider de-subbing from Wirenet to join up for this (and I
can still use Cable & Wireless cheaper calls during the day).

I mean - =A314 a month for a very good service and 20Mb space but no real
free time

Or =A310 a month for a service i aint sure about, unkown webspace but
free calls evenings and weekends??

So, what i now need to know is whats the service like? (connection wise
- dont need technical) whats the website space and what URL do you
get????

Oh, and can my Miggy handle everything ok (i can sign up at uni)

Ta, muchly,

Bifford.




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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:49:25 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_=28Was=3A_What=27s_on_AFCD51=3F=29?=
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> > No, if you read back you'll find that Commodore went tits up, which
> > got us "into this mess". If the Amiga had been left to advance, it'd
> > be just like the Macintosh is now.. or the PC.. or both?
>
> Would it? Yes, I admit Commodore went (To borrow your
> metaphor) "Tits Up", but the problem with integrated Hardware

with a capital H?

> is that it becomes Obsolete

With a capital O?

> very quickly, and is VERY difficult to change.

Do your research: Dave Haynie was all for a move to PCI instead of
Zorro, and moving the display off the motherboard. OS3.1 was the
first step to get rid of the AGA chipset by building in features for
RTG cards... and then they went (to borrow my metaphor back)
tits up.

> Look at PC Laptops. They have a Life Expectancy of 4 Months
> (From the mouth of both a Toshiba and an HP Rep)!

Yep, SALES REPS. A shelf-life of 4 months. Take home that
Toshiba Satellite Laptop (with it's PII 300 processor) and it'll
last you 3 years and only just be a low-end system. It's not
like you'll wanna run Quake 6 on it..

> Do we really want to fall into that trap?

What trap? Of being guided by sales and marketing chaps? We
already did.. but thankfully neither Fleecy, Bill, Francis C., Chris
Hinsley? or Dan Dodge are driven by sales either..

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:29:30 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
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"Boo" are my initials!!...don't wear them out!.. ;)

Toffy



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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 16:52:07 -0000
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Samuel Byford [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 16:46
> To: [e-mail]
> Subject: [afb] Re: BT Internet
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > > I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned here today... =20
> BT Internet
> > > are now offering (as of 1 March) 0800 calls on weekday evenings
> > > (6pm-midnight) as well as at weekends.  What's more,=20
> they've reduced
> > > their subscription charge to =A39.99 per month.  Too good=20
> to be true?
> > > Maybe :)
> >=20
>=20
> Oohh,=20
>=20
> I may just consider de-subbing from Wirenet to join up for this (and =
I
> can still use Cable & Wireless cheaper calls during the day). =20
>=20
> I mean - =A314 a month for a very good service and 20Mb space=20
> but no real
> free time
>=20
> Or =A310 a month for a service i aint sure about, unkown webspace but
> free calls evenings and weekends??
>=20
> So, what i now need to know is whats the service like?=20
> (connection wise
> - dont need technical) whats the website space and what URL do you
> get????
>=20
> Oh, and can my Miggy handle everything ok (i can sign up at uni)

Oops, I missed out on this the First time, but Enterprise (My ISP) have =
just
announced 0800 Weekend access coming with the Next Batch of CD's (Due =
in the
post today), as well as planned "Always Off-peak" schemes and =
suchlike...
The Charge? =A311.75+VAT, and you get 25Mb Webspace, Unlimited =
Multilinks,
Unlimited E-mail space, Unlimited E-Mail Addresses, CGI + SSI, Local =
Rate
Tech Support...

Oh just visit the site! http://www.enterprise.net
--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:38:06 -0800
From: "Samuel Byford" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To:  <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B2BA9EFE@THE_EXCHANGE>
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> > Your clock is wrong... please don't post unless you fix it!
> <SNIP>
>
> Ben, Was it really necessary to quote his entire message to give this
one
> line answer that had nothing to do with the message anyway?
>

Especially when the date and time was right!  It came up as a couple of
minutes earlier than your message!!

Bifford.




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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:40:02 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
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Not much going on the 15th of march....

I then become 22...

anyone here got equal to =A3500 to give me so I can buy PPC-hardware for
my
miggy and cheer me up?...

all donations accepted..as long as it's in real money..:D

Toffy



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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 08:50:56 -0800
From: "Samuel Byford" <[e-mail]>
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> So, what i now need to know is whats the service like? (connection
wise
> - dont need technical) whats the website space and what URL do you
> get????
>
> Oh, and can my Miggy handle everything ok (i can sign up at uni)
>

Sorry folks.  Answer one of my own questions here! The Web space is 2Gb
and the url a disapointing http://www.btinternet.com/~yourname

Well. the limit is nice but the url isnt :)  :(

TTFN

Bifford.




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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:03:04 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_R=E8v=F3l?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?o=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF_=28Was=3A_What=27s_on_AFCD51=3F=29?=
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 16:49
> To: '[e-mail]'
> Subject: [afb] RE: [afb] RE: R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF (Was: What's =
on AFCD51?)
>=20
> > > No, if you read back you'll find that Commodore went tits=20
> up, which
> > > got us "into this mess". If the Amiga had been left to=20
> advance, it'd
> > > be just like the Macintosh is now.. or the PC.. or both?
> >=20
> > Would it? Yes, I admit Commodore went (To borrow your=20
> > metaphor) "Tits Up", but the problem with integrated Hardware
>=20
> with a capital H?
>=20
> > is that it becomes Obsolete
>=20
> With a capital O?

I get irritated, and Start Spelling Words With Capitalised First =
Characters,
OKAY???
:)

> > very quickly, and is VERY difficult to change.
>=20
> Do your research: Dave Haynie was all for a move to PCI instead of
> Zorro, and moving the display off the motherboard. OS3.1 was the
> first step to get rid of the AGA chipset by building in features for
> RTG cards... and then they went (to borrow my metaphor back)
> tits up.

Because of slow sales and bad advertising. I admit the Bad advertising =
was
their fault, but you must see my point. And how do you know what Mr. =
Haynie
was thinking? Is there some secret information source you have?

> > Look at PC Laptops. They have a Life Expectancy of 4 Months
> > (From the mouth of both a Toshiba and an HP Rep)!
>=20
> Yep, SALES REPS. A shelf-life of 4 months. Take home that
> Toshiba Satellite Laptop (with it's PII 300 processor) and it'll
> last you 3 years and only just be a low-end system. It's not
> like you'll wanna run Quake 6 on it..

They were quoting average obsolesence figures, with back-up paperwork

> > Do we really want to fall into that trap?
>=20
> What trap? Of being guided by sales and marketing chaps? We
> already did.. but thankfully neither Fleecy, Bill, Francis C., Chris
> Hinsley? or Dan Dodge are driven by sales either..

So they don't want any wages?
Strange.

Come on, They are in it for personal gain. You don't get something for
nothing, and you don't work for free. NO-ONE does. It may seem strange, =
but
this world is driven by "Profit & Loss", and if you don't make a =
company
profit, you're out!--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
Still IMHO...


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:04:47 -0800
From: "Toffypops" <[e-mail]>
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Added 5 retailers of AF in norway to the database...
So that Norwegians who are a bit lost can find it if they
happend to surf through any of the places...

Most retailers don't stock it but you can get them to order
AF...

Retail sales price in norway is hmmm.....129 NKR or something,...
that is about =A39,69 in british pounds an issue...

toffy




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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:05:48 -0800
From: "Nick Darley-Jones" <[e-mail]>
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Hi everyone,

> Can you help me?  I am setting really pathetic download speeds with
> my system.  I have an A1200 '040 25mhz, clock up card and an Ioblix
> 1200 serial card.
> I seem to get speeds of about 1500cps?  Is there anyway of testing or
> patching my system to get better speeds.  I am using a baud rate of
> 115200 (230400 unsteady!).
>
> Also, using Genesis, it is difficult to set up.  I had to set up using
> the serial port and then install the ioblix and software to get on
line.
>
> Are other cards like the twister faster?

Hi.  It's Nick again.  I have found that using version 37.14 of the
Ioblix software made  actually made my machine go slower!  When I
reverted
back to version 37.12 my speeds went back up to 2000+.  Why?

P.S.  Has anyone noticed that TweekWB has a problem with Fblit (v3.51)?
      Version 2.51 seems to be O.K though.
      CtrlWB is less memory hogging on startup but uses more ChipRam
      when you open windows.

Regards,
Nick

-------
G.A.G  (Gloucestershire Amiga Group)
       http://www.free0052804.free4all.co.uk
-------
>



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From: George Davis <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:48:57 +0000
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Hello.
Is that generous Lords of Chaos owner (who responded to my AF Reader Ad a=
 while back)
on this list?
-- =

<sb>Geo



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From: George Davis <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:49:08 +0000
In-Reply-To: <89gp8k$[e-mail]>
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On 29-Feb-00, Paul Laycock wrote:

> While I don't bother with termination; PowerUp emulation! However,
> FastQuake doesn't work with this :( Hope Frank Wille gets QuakeWOS
> using total conversions soon.

Can you give me some pointers as to how to set up the PowerUp emulation t=
hen?
I have a BlizzardPPC,and I've got 'BPPCFix Reboot >NIL:' in the startup-s=
equence,and the PPC.library from Frank Wille's site in LIBS:
But I can't run PowerUp programs.~Can't open your tool ADoom/whatever" :(=

Any ideas?
-- =

<sb>Geo



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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:12:37 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D_RE=3A_=5Bafb=5D?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_RE=3A_R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF_=28Was=3A_What=27s_on?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_AFCD51=3F=29?=
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> > > very quickly, and is VERY difficult to change.
> >
> > Do your research: Dave Haynie was all for a move to PCI instead of
> > Zorro, and moving the display off the motherboard. OS3.1 was the
> > first step to get rid of the AGA chipset by building in features for
> > RTG cards... and then they went (to borrow my metaphor back)
> > tits up.
>
> Because of slow sales and bad advertising.

Sales were NOT "slow". They went down because they cocked up the
PC division which sucked up all the money.

> advertising was their fault, but you must see my point. And how do
> you know  what Mr. Haynie was thinking? Is there some secret
> information source you have?

I'm a Phoenix member, he's a Phoenix member. Discussed
stuff, I've emailed him a few times.. I've read the Dave Haynie
Archives (look on Amiga.org for the link) and we've been over
all the nostalgia crap. He wouldn't recognise me in a crowd, it's
not that kind of thing, but I've certainly been involved in
discussions about this sort of stuff.

Hell, isn't he on the TeamAMIGA list?

> > Yep, SALES REPS. A shelf-life of 4 months. Take home that
> > Toshiba Satellite Laptop (with it's PII 300 processor) and it'll
> > last you 3 years and only just be a low-end system. It's not
> > like you'll wanna run Quake 6 on it..
>
> They were quoting average obsolesence figures, with back-up paperwork

Ahem, SALES REPS?

> > What trap? Of being guided by sales and marketing chaps? We
> > already did.. but thankfully neither Fleecy, Bill, Francis C., Chris
> > Hinsley? or Dan Dodge are driven by sales either..
>
> So they don't want any wages?

Yes they do, but they aren't driven by sales targets..

> Come on, They are in it for personal gain.

Ha! You've got something to learn if you think either Fleecy or
Bill will be making any kind of significant money out of Amiga
for at least a year or two.

Amiga, QSSL and Tao are all technology-driven companies,
they thrive by making the best technology available rather
than competing with thousands of others by undercutting
prices and launching huge marketing campaigns.

Hence, they are not driven by sales. HP and Toshiba ARE.

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:13:26 -0000
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> Most retailers don't stock it but you can get them to order=20
> AF...
>=20
> Retail sales price in norway is hmmm.....129 NKR or something,...
> that is about =A39,69 in british pounds an issue...

The moral of this story is (all together!):

S U B S C R I B E !

--=20
Matt Sealey [e-mail]=20
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:19:20 -0000
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> P.S.  Has anyone noticed that TweekWB has a problem with
> Fblit (v3.51)?
>       Version 2.51 seems to be O.K though.
>       CtrlWB is less memory hogging on startup but uses more ChipRam
>       when you open windows.

If you only have FBlit 3.51 you need to set the LoadWB command to
use SIMPLEGELS otherwise **FBlit** sucks up memory, not WBCtrl.

To fix it properly?

Right, go to http://www.tpec.u-net.com and get FBlit 3.56e because
you'll need it for this. Note down your FBlit settings, and delete the
ENVARC:FBlit.cfg file before installing it. Get the newest WBCtrl as
well.

Now, when you start using the new FBlit, load up the GUI (type FBlit
again) and check that the QBSBlitPatch is enabled, and that the AddBob
and RemBob patches are disabled. Add your tasks to the lists again,
including IPrefs (get the double thingies right ;)

Now put WBCtrl just before the LoadWB line (which can now just
use standard arguments, i.e. get rid of SIMPLEGELS), and set it to
look like this:

:
WBCtrl IMT=ICONFAST
LoadWB ..
:


et voila! If you're having lots of trouble, just give me a poke and I'll
see if I can help. For I am the FBlit Master!!!

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:20:42 +0000
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Hi M.,

> As long as your device is well equipped from the start, you can do
> anything with it for a long long time. I can't see the original Palm
> Pilots being too obselete now that a colour one is out, they all still
> work just as well in b&w.

The colour one's screen resolution is much too low...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
*Quiz tag:* name the Tube station whose name does not contain any of
the letters in the word "mackerel"




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From: Robert Johnston <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:21:39 -0000
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Subject: [afb] =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF_=28Was=3A_What?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=27s_on_AFCD51=3F=29?=
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sealey, M. [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: 01 March 2000 17:13
> To: '[e-mail]'
> Subject: [afb] RE: [afb] RE: [afb] RE: [afb] RE: =
R=E8v=F3lo=FCti=F5n=E2r=FF (Was:
> What's on AFCD51?)
>=20
>=20
> > > > very quickly, and is VERY difficult to change.
> > >=20
> > > Do your research: Dave Haynie was all for a move to PCI instead =
of
> > > Zorro, and moving the display off the motherboard. OS3.1 was the
> > > first step to get rid of the AGA chipset by building in=20
> features for
> > > RTG cards... and then they went (to borrow my metaphor back)
> > > tits up.
> >=20
> > Because of slow sales and bad advertising.=20
>=20
> Sales were NOT "slow". They went down because they cocked up the
> PC division which sucked up all the money.

Two different divisions that had virtually nothing to do with each =
other
(Apart from the Brand name)...

> > advertising was their fault, but you must see my point. And how do
> > you know  what Mr. Haynie was thinking? Is there some secret
> > information source you have?
>=20
> I'm a Phoenix member, he's a Phoenix member. Discussed
> stuff, I've emailed him a few times.. I've read the Dave Haynie
> Archives (look on Amiga.org for the link) and we've been over
> all the nostalgia crap. He wouldn't recognise me in a crowd, it's
> not that kind of thing, but I've certainly been involved in
> discussions about this sort of stuff.
>=20
> Hell, isn't he on the TeamAMIGA list?

Probably, I wouldn't know, I'm not on that list.

> > > Yep, SALES REPS. A shelf-life of 4 months. Take home that
> > > Toshiba Satellite Laptop (with it's PII 300 processor) and it'll
> > > last you 3 years and only just be a low-end system. It's not
> > > like you'll wanna run Quake 6 on it..
> >=20
> > They were quoting average obsolesence figures, with back-up=20
> paperwork
>=20
> Ahem, SALES REPS?

Yes, Sales Reps. I enjoy tripping them up, but the figures were from a =
FT
Study about 2 months ago (IIRC)

> > > What trap? Of being guided by sales and marketing chaps? We
> > > already did.. but thankfully neither Fleecy, Bill,=20
> Francis C., Chris
> > > Hinsley? or Dan Dodge are driven by sales either..
> >=20
> > So they don't want any wages?
>=20
> Yes they do, but they aren't driven by sales targets..

No Sales =3D No Profits =3D No Wages, Therefore:-
No Sales =3D No Wages...

Not Sales Driven?

> > Come on, They are in it for personal gain.
>=20
> Ha! You've got something to learn if you think either Fleecy or
> Bill will be making any kind of significant money out of Amiga
> for at least a year or two.
>=20
> Amiga, QSSL and Tao are all technology-driven companies,
> they thrive by making the best technology available rather
> than competing with thousands of others by undercutting
> prices and launching huge marketing campaigns.
>=20
> Hence, they are not driven by sales. HP and Toshiba ARE.

I admit HP and Toshiba are DIRECTLY driven by Profit, QSSL and TAO Are
INDIRECTLY driven by Profit. They won't associate themselves with =
companies
making (Or looking to make) a loss, as those companies cannot afford =
their
technology. Amiga, However, is going to be selling into the Retail =
market
DIRECTLY, so therefore they will need to shift units. They may be =
relying on
Technology-driven companies, but it does not make them one themselves. =
Look
at Apple. They're in the same boat as us, but doing better with it, =
mainly
because they had the DTP market holding them afloat.
--=20
Robert Johnston (A.C.P.)
Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers
0870 727 4020 x657
Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk
Still IMHO...


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From: "Sealey, M." <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:25:36 -0000
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> > As long as your device is well equipped from the start, you can do
> > anything with it for a long long time. I can't see the original Palm
> > Pilots being too obselete now that a colour one is out,
> > they all still work just as well in b&w.
>
> The colour one's screen resolution is much too low...

What's the res on your Palm.. III is it? Ben? What's the newest
B&W one at, is it any better or was that a purely speed/feature
upgrade?

And what's the colour one at?

I'm not too "up" on this Palm thing, as I can't find an excuse to
buy one..

--
Matt Sealey [e-mail]
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester


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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 17:28:42 +0000
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Hi M.,

> What's the res on your Palm.. III is it? Ben? What's the newest
> B&W one at, is it any better or was that a purely speed/feature
> upgrade?

It's not high. Hang on - the screenshots on palmgear are at 160x160. The
newer Palms (the V, Vx, VII) have the same screen but better backlighting.

> And what's the colour one at?

I think it's the same, but it's likely to be higher. However, the overall
result is apparently lower (because it would have to be at least three
times higher to have the same apparent res as the mono version).

> I'm not too "up" on this Palm thing, as I can't find an excuse to
> buy one..

I wouldn't be without mine now.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:35:17 -0800
From: "Allen Kong" <[e-mail]>
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I think you have to have a file in your ENVARC:ppc drawer called
"nopatch" with the number 1
in it.  So to do this just make a drawer called "powerpc" you "should"
have it.
and make a file, using ed, with the number 1 in it, call it "nopatch"
and you should be ok when you next boot.

allen



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From: Bert Volders <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 18:58:08 +0100
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Hey graeme

On 29-feb-00, you wrote:

> can anyone tell me how to spoof as mozilla on AWEB 3.2 SE

Buy the full version and it should be possible. Enables you also to get r=
id of those anoying cookie-requesters.

Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

[e-mail]
<sb>
Tag of the day:
Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is
time to reform.
-- Mark Twain




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From: "fool" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:56:49 -0000
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Hi Matt,

> Let me just make one point clear: needlessly bashing certain
> software houses because they don't agree with your high and
> mighty (and also slightly naive) view of the world, does NOT
> make you big, tough, or sexy.

There are plenty of reasons to criticise every software house; every program
ever written (with the obvious exception of "Hello World" and the like) has
bugs and flaws and MS's software is particularly easy to criticise (apart
from Win2000 :)...mainly because the flaws are in a piece of sofware that's
used by a billion (random large number) people.  If the Amiga had been half
as successful, there'd be a much larger proportion of it's users criticising
it - as it stands, the users who are left are the ones who use it by choice,
so naturally there's fewer criticisms of it.

> It makes you look like a big, attention grabbing fool. No
> offence, Martin, if you're still here.

None taken - I knew you weren't talking about me from the "big, tough and
sexy" bit ;)

> If you have something constructive to say, say it. If it's
> something derogatory to Microsoft or Windows, or
> McDonalds or Burger King TAKE IT TO ANOTHER LIST.

Whether it's constructive or derogatory (and by that I'm assuming you're
talking about constructive criticism as opposed to criticising merely
because you can), it shouldn't be on here unless it's related to the Amiga.

> > > If you want to transfer data between a Windows PC and an Amiga
> > > (using what we call a LapLink cable), you can simply install a
> > > "direct cable connection" on the PC, use the PLIP protocol in Miami
> > > and use telnet from the PC to open a shell on the Amiga via the
> > > TCP device.

Does anyone know if the cable supplied with NetworkPC can be used in the
same way?

Martin.
--
http://www.amine.co.uk  ICQ: 61700031



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From: "Steven" <[e-mail]>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 21:28:53 +0000
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Hi,

> What computer are you using? For GLQuake Timedemo 1 I get 11 fps using
> a 200Mhz 040 603e in 640x480.

I used Timedemo demo2 for the tests. I already stated the spec in a
previous mail, but its below anyway.

A1200T with CyberStormPPC 604e/200 and 060/50 with 96MB using a CVPPC
running CGX V4.2pre3. PowerUP progs run under PowerUp kernal (latest
flash update and libs - v46.28 IIRC), and WarpUp progs run under
WarpOS v3 (the latest available from H+P anyway - warp.library v4,
powerpc.library v15.0)

Cya,
Steven


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From: Chris Millar <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:12:33 +0000
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Hello fellow afb'ers

Sometime in late June/early July, I intend to lose my WOA virginity. :)

Finally it seems, the orgainsers have come to their senses and discovered
that there's life outwith the M25, and will hold the show in BrummieLand.

Anyhoo, it's time to draw up a shopping-list, which includes the
following......

PFS3
Photogenics 4
PhotoFolio 2
A Sub to AF - I won't resist any longer Ben ;)
Heretic II
Shogo
Punchinello
Any Boing! tat I can lay my hands on :)
Shareware registration of Frogger if possible
Catweasel
Keyboard switch for BMON

.......and anything else that takes my fancy. :)

regards

chris
--
 Are you threatening me?  I am the Great Cornholio!  I need TeePee for my
 bunghole.
-- Beavis, Beavis & Butthead

Powered by PowerPC Amiga in Dumfries & Galloway

A1200 Power Tower, 200Mhz PPC/060 50Mhz, BVision, 74Mb Ram, OS3.5, CGX V4.2

Panasonic 36" W-i-d-e-s-c-r-e-e-n TV, Pioneer 717 MultiRegion DVD, Denon AC3
Decoder, Mordaunt-Short Speakers, Marantz SubWoofer.....



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From: Oliver Esberger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:24:19 +0100
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Hello Matt,

On 01-Mr-00, you wrote:

>> Of course it does. I'm using PFS2 with OS3.5 without any problems.
> You seem to be the exception if Mark is to be beleived..

No, I don't think so. I for one installed PFS2, checked my buffers (for
I knew about that Problem :) and forgot about it, and I think that's the
case for most PFS users. Of course they do not all post "Hey PFS2 works
on my system!", so you might get the impression everyone talking about
PFS has had bad experiences with it.

> You're not looking hard enough!

OK, I know that small buffers can ruin your HD Block ID (whatever that
is), but PFS3 now checks it and throws up a warning (this should really
have been a part of PFS2)

>> since I've installed PFS2 not even the worst crash could do harm to
>> my data...
> I could honestly say the same about my FFS partitions: my SFS Cache:
> partition causes me MORE problems..

I guess you have been lucky then, but a crash during a write access
under FFS can seriously screw your data, so bad that even DiskValidator
won't help anymore, and DiskSalv is not an option for some of my
partitions (>4GB)

> And if PFS2 is so good.. how come they released PFS3?

If AmigaDOS 1.3 is so good, how come they released AmigaOS 3.5?
 " HTML         "  "  "     "   "    "    "        HTML4?
 " SCSI         "  "  "     "   "    "    "        UW SCSI?

or even:

If FFS 41 is so good, how come they released FFS 45?

:)

>> Honestly, why do you say things about PFS2/3 that are simply untrue?
> They ARE true. I read them in reviews, in letters columns in magazines
> (replied to by respectable Amiga Mag People who say "yeah that's a
> nasty quirk, but look at all the advantages you get for all that
> worry!")

I would be very interested what advantages you would get from PFS apart
from security? Sure, there is the speed increase, but the only fields
where it is really noticable is directory access (YAM) and seeking (e.g.
playing an AVI/QT movie)

> PFS3 is far from perfect. PFS2 is obviously not-so-perfect still. If
> you feel
> that you have to pay 30 so that your machine can crash without worry,
> you're tackling the wrong problem: WHY IS YOUR MACHINE CRASHING SO
> BADLY THAT YOUR HARD DRIVE GETS SO DAMAGED?

Well, for example early versions of V3 (EARLY versions, I want to make
that clear!), Photogenics4, beta versions of PhotoFolio2, ramlib
problems (stupid, I know, but solved)...

But I've never had PFS2 crash my machine.

Regards
--
Oliver Esberger - mailto:[e-mail]



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Date: 29 Feb 2000 21:51:37 +0000
From: "Ian Urie" <[e-mail]>
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On 29-Feb-00 16:18:18, Sealey, M. said about [afb] Re: OS3.5 Emergency disk:
>> I'm sure it's the poxy new HDTOOLBOX. :(

> You're using PFS2? Why? It's buggy, obseleted, causes no end of
> problems ANYWAY.. and you expect it to work nicely with OS3.5?
> PFS3 doesn't even work with it properly!!

In what respect? I haven't had any problems so far....


--
Ian Urie  <[e-mail]>
Uin:19729444
 Let's split up, we can do more damage that way.



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:05:29 +0100
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Hi M.

> What, that some dumbass Amiga programmer decided to use a
> freakish method for data transfer? That it's a hacky, kludged
> method designed before Windows was around? That Windows
> doesn't try to support obselete 10 year old DOS software?

Who cares? pc2amiga works first time every time and works on 95, 98, and nt.
If you just wanna copy a few files across (or in my case a whole CD) then
its great. Of course you wouldn't set up a network with it, but its not
made for that. It sucks up cpu time like there no tomorrow but its worth it

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

17) A bargain usually isn't.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:14:40 +0100
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On 01-Mar-00, Oliver Masters wrote:

> I agree freenetname sucks. I think I remember reading in their terms and
> conditions that you can't just run a single page site that redirects to
> other webspace. This makes sense as if you could then you would stop using
> their shite service and they'd be hosting your domain completely free
> after having paid to register it for you.

Are they gonna check every page looking for a redirection? if they just scan
the document s for the redirection tags, then I could just but the
redirection page on bigwig, then have a link to it on freenetname? :) ee by
gum I'm crafty is me!

> Check out http://uk2.net/ they do UK domains for 1.99 inc. web and email
> forwarding. Don't take my word for it though, check the details for
> yourself.

What about the monthly payments?

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

"Hey, Noah!  How long can you tread water?" -- God







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:19:30 +0100
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Hi M.

> Or you COULD have just paid someone like http://www.gradwell.com
> 10 for the domain and hosted it any damned where you like
> forever (as long as you kept paying the 10 a two-year or whatever)

I was looking for something like that! :/ but every time I went to such a
page it'd read "Only 9.99!, plus 15/month thereafter...." Loads of places
will host them free, but all the cheap registration places needed you to
sign on for a year or so :/

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

I'm going back to school soon, said Tom with class.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:29:56 +0100
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On 01-Mar-00, Paul Laycock wrote:

>>> Cue Vikings ...

>> Lovely Spam, Wonderful Spam!
>> Lovely Spam, Wonderful
>> Spam, spaaaaaam, Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam,
>> spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam, SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>> M!!!

> <VOICE PITCH="HIGH">"Shut up! Shut up!"</VOICE>

BRING OUT YER DEAD!

Mash - looking on the bright side of life
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

I Doctor Who.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:33:55 +0100
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On 01-Mar-00, Ben Vost wrote:

> Okay. We have the final release of Personal Paint on this CD. It's version
> 7.1b, which is newer than any version previously commercially available
> (although you could patch your existing 7.1 installation to 7.1b with the
> patch from Aminet). It takes up about 70M of space on the CD thanks to
> full documentation in three languages and a bunch of example pics and
> anims.

Oooooooohhhhhh.......

Just a small point though, its their fault it didn't sell very well:

1) DPaint still had some features miles ahead of it, and that is years old
2) I seem to have several free versions on my HD anyway
3) Everyone already has DPaint which does virtually the same thing just
aswell anyway
4) No 24-bit

Basically, it never offered anything marginally better than that which was
given away with amigas anyway, you can heardly blame anyone for not buying
it.

Mash -
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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:39:26 +0100
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Hi M.

> I'm sure that using Blitz can't be helping much, either. And age is
> no measure of ability: which must mean you're either lazy or crap ;)

pleeeeeease tell me you're joking about the blitz sentance?

Mash -
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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:35:18 +0100
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Hi M.

> .. although if they're willing to throw PPaint 7.1 to all
> you magazine people, is that a sign that PPaint 8 is on the
> way, or that they couldn't give a toss about us greasy Amiga
> users anymore? :)

The fact that a big hint was that they're leaving the amiga platform leads
me to believe that I'm greasy

Mash -
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From: roger buckley <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 13:38:33 +0000
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Hello Ben

On 01-Mar-00, you wrote:


> Okay. We have the final release of Personal Paint on this CD. .
>
Good new & bad. Does this mean Cloanto have finished with the Amiga ?

Regards
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Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
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Date: 1 Mar 2000 2:58:33 +0000
From: "Tom Miles" <[e-mail]>
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Hiya Carl

On 29-Feb-00 21:28:47, you said:
>Yes the sequels are (nearly) always inferior but......
es :

>Tomorrow is the start of a new month so some of you will have been
>paid recently so the spendathon span lasts from tomorrow until
>midnight on March 10th.  To be eligible you must buy some Amiga
>software between these dates (inclusive).  No I don't care if you

Well I'm going for the early bird, cheapskate award.  At approximately
2.50am on 1st March I ordered Cybergfx V4 update.  I just hope that the reg
code I submitted is correct!

Toodle pip,

Tom

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From: "Paul Cundle" <[e-mail]>
Date: 29 Feb 2000 21:52:38 +0000
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On Tue Feb 29, Kevin Fairhurst was heard muttering:

> OR you could get yourself
> one of those RGB -> Scart adaptors that Tandy used to sell ...

Used to? I bought one a few months ago :)

Doesn't work though...

> Kev

Paul C, would I lie to you?
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From: "" <[e-mail]>
Date: 1 Mar 2000 18:26:28 +0000
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Andy Mills ([e-mail]) on 20 Feb 2000 22:18:10 +0000:
> Hello , on 19-Feb-00 21:01:04 you said about:
>   [afb] Clockport serial card woes
>
> >I have a problem.  Well I have have several, but this one is computer
> >related, so I wonder if anyone can offer any advise. :-)
>
> >I purchased an Eyetech PortJnr serial interface from Active Technologies, and
> >I've never been able to get it to work with my rev 1B A1200 with Blizzard
> >A1230/50.
> >
> >I can connect to the internet at a decent connection speed (about 49333bps),
> >but when connected, any requests for web pages, or e-mail download requests,
> >go unanswered until it times out.  As I said before, the internal serial port
> >works just fine.
> >
> >I've tried different ISPs, removing WB patches and any unnecessary hardware,
> >fiddling with the TCP/IP settings on Genesis, and trying another A1200 (also
> >a rev 1B), with no luck.
> >
> >I suspect that the old revision 1B board is the problem.
>
> [snip]
>
> I'm also using a PortJnr on a 1B MoBo and it works fine. Are you using
> the latest driver?

Wasn't, apparently, but am now. (V2.95beta)

Unfortunately, it still ain't working properly.  It connects & works to start
with, but after a few minuets, it grinds to a halt and any request for new pages
etc, are ignored.

If it isn't a rev 1b problem, then I'm at a loss.  Anyone else have any ideas?

--
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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:40:33 -0000
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>    You could try Paint shop pro. I use it quiet allot and its ok. The
>best
>thing about it is you usually find a free trial version on Mag cover
>disks
>so you can get the feel of it B4 you buy. It has most of the features
>you
>could need, eg Layers etc and Version 6 also has vector graphic support.
>Plus It can read / write Amiga Iff files :-)

BTW, the so called Amiga (.IFF) file format isn`t a true ILBM format and I
couldn`t get
Multiview to open them. The DPaint (.LBM) format is definately compatible.


Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:50:19 +0000
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I watched as Carl Berry hammered "[afb] The Spendathon 2" out on their
keyboard...

> The prizes ?  They are all  crap you don't want to know... no
> really...oh go on then.

> You get your pick from :

> Lemmings 2
> Sim Earth
> Pinball Mania
> Beneath a Steel Sky
> Amiga Format presents Get the most out of ..... Music X (video) (I
> could stretch to the Music X coverdisk as well if you need it and I
> can find it)
> And a CD called Milk and Blood by almost Ben Vost lookalike and ex-
> Faith No More basist Jim Martin (in very good condition, played only a
> couple of times to preserve its quality and not because its dire or
> anything honest).

I have a vast collection of old games I could add to that list...Flight of
the Intruder anyone?  IK+? California Games 2?  All slightly dusty, but in
working condition :)

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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:46:34 +0000
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I watched as Primo Busancano hammered "[afb] Why is this?" out on their
keyboard...

> Gentlmen and ladies,
>  Can someone tell why I get the following come up?
>
>     Amiga Early Startup Control
> (press any key to toggle the display between NTSC & PAL)
>    Bootup options
>    Display options
>    Expansion Board Diagnostic
>    Boot                          Boot with no startup sequence
> This appears to be a random event.Also ,when this happens ,the mouse
> becomes usless it justs jumps up and down on the left of the
> screen,and cannot be moved to activate any of the above buttons.
> My rodent is a "Punchinello" type from Power Computing.

Let me guess...you got the Punchinello + Wheel Mouse deal?

>  Can anyone explain why this happens,but above all what does it all
> mean?

If you got the bundled Punchinello + mouse deal then I can.  Very simple,
the lead on the mouse isn't of the greatest quality...and with the length
of the adaptor and everything, does it push up against a wall or something?
 If it does, try pulling your miggy out form the wall a bit.  When the
lead/PS2 connector on mine gets pushed right up against the wall (and now
I'm guessing) some of the wires seem to get crossed and it does bizaire and
wonderful things with the mouse pointer.--
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 1 Mar 2000 19:01:22 +0000
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On 29 Feb 2000 21:52:38 +0000, Paul Cundle ([e-mail]) wrote:
> On Tue Feb 29, Kevin Fairhurst was heard muttering:
>
> > OR you could get yourself
> > one of those RGB -> Scart adaptors that Tandy used to sell ...
>
> Used to? I bought one a few months ago :)

But can you still buy them?

> Doesn't work though...

Take it back and swap it then   ;-)

Seriously, the ones they sell (25 pin RGB + audio -> scart) should work in
an A4000.  I should know, I've got an A4000!   :)

Are you sure it's not a problem with your TV?

Kev

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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 1 Mar 2000 19:03:18 +0000
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On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 09:50:19 +0000, Rick Hodger ([e-mail]) wrote:

> I have a vast collection of old games I could add to that list...Flight of
> the Intruder anyone?  IK+? California Games 2?  All slightly dusty, but in
> working condition :)


If you like, you can run Spendathon 4 - I've bagsied Spendathon 3  :-)

Kev

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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 11:45:23 -0800
From: "Phil Allen" <[e-mail]>
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"ben vost" <[e-mail]> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=49501
> Hi Mark,
>
> > And it wasn't even unique to Amiga either. I mean, Amstrad's,
Speccy's,
> > Commodore 64's and too many more to mention were all arranged this
way
> > (even the BBC's)
>
> There have been keyboard PCs before too, so it's hardly a novelty.
>

You mean the wheel of time and fashion has turned already? When were
these keyboard PCs around? We should be able to figure out a time-line
for the Amiga becoming pre-eminent once more!

Vive la revolution! :)

Regards, Phil



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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
References: <89jg7s$[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:48:26 -0000
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Hi Paul

> > > Or how about the old game TinTin which was released about the same
> > > time as Batman? I think thats a bit of a stronger link! ;)
> >
> > There was a Tintin game?  What type of game was it?  Hopefully it
> wasn't
> > a platformer in the style of Batman :-)
>
> Sorry to break it to you like this, but yeh! Its that only way anyone
> ever did licenses... ;) I think it was in AF5. Never owned (or played)
> the game, mind you!

My Spectrum emulator's just cooling off now, and I can tell you this:
don't bother, it's a crap game.  Right, I'm off for another go at level 43
of Logo...

Lovely job
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Date: 1 Mar 2000 19:0:59 +0000
From:  "Oliver Roberts" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Pam,

On 01-Mar-00 16:16:08 GMT, Pam wrote:

>> I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned here today...  BT Internet
>> are now offering (as of 1 March) 0800 calls on weekday evenings
>> (6pm-midnight) as well as at weekends.  What's more, they've reduced
>> their subscription charge to 9.99 per month.  Too good to be true?
>> Maybe :)

> OK, stupid question time.....
>
> Can I set up my Amiga (via NetConnect) to access this? Or does it need
> special software that only runs from a PC?

You can use NetConnect, no problem.  The problem is signing up - I've
tried using IB 2.1, Voyager3, AWeb 3.3SE and IB2.2beta, both with and
without Javascript enabled.  All produced differing results, but to cut
a long story short, neither worked :(  Yes, BT's HTML/JS still sucks!

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Date: 1 Mar 2000 19:6:57 +0000
From:  "Oliver Roberts" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Robert,

On 01-Mar-00 16:52:07 GMT, Robert Johnston wrote:

> Oops, I missed out on this the First time, but Enterprise (My ISP) have
> just announced 0800 Weekend access coming with the Next Batch of CD's
> (Due in the post today), as well as planned "Always Off-peak" schemes and
> suchlike... The Charge? 11.75+VAT, and you get 25Mb Webspace, Unlimited
> Multilinks, Unlimited E-mail space, Unlimited E-Mail Addresses, CGI +
> SSI, Local Rate Tech Support...

I don't fancy returning to Enterprise - they were my first ISP, and
I left them for Freeserve, after loads of problems.  Funny thing is
that I still have access to my webspace there, even though I closed
my account over a year ago :)  I've been very impressed with
Freeserve - IMHO, they're service is much better (less problems).
Having said that, I've been having connectivity problems with Freeserve
(line drops, etc) over the last few weeks, so I've got nothing to lose
with going back to BT (Enterprise use the same BTNet backbone), just to
see if they've improved at all :)

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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
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Hiya

All this talk of domain names has got me-a-pondering.  How would I go
about getting a domain with a different suffix?  Such as .it?

Lovely job
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:09:29 +0000
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On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 07:06:57PM +0000, Oliver Roberts wrote:

> Date: 1 Mar 2000 19:6:57 +0000
                      ^
Does anywhere actually write it like that?

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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
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Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:17:10 -0000
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Hi Matt

> Someone pointed me at a lovely place: http://www.gradwell.com

They do look pretty good.  So could I get a domain registered with them
and host it on, say Free4All?  Would it be a full host or just forwarding?

Lovely job
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From: Vincenzo Morra <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:18:52 +0100
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Hello Ben

On 01-Mar-00, Ben Vost wrote:


> It's a little more complex than that and mainly revolves around Jim Drew's
> slightly schizophrenic attitude to business... Fusion 3.4 *is* complete
> and ready.

THANK YOU BEN!!!!! That is exactly what I wanted to say.
I have had so many arguments with that man in the past that I have lost count.

I wanted to go on the Fusion list and "attack" him again but I am fed up to do
that. If he is tired about the Amiga market than he can fu#k off somewhere
else.

I am having enough of him playing God.

Bye
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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:28:24 +0000
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Hello xatiminey

On 01-Mar-00, you wrote:

> Sandy Brownlee wrote:
>>> alternatively, you could use pc2amiga which was on AACD4, IIRC.
>>
>> Sadly, I don't get AA.
>
> Its also on Aminet;
>
> http://ftp.unina.it/pub/aminet/comm/misc/PC2Am308.lha
> and you might want the fix too;
> http://ftp.unina.it/pub/aminet/comm/net/PC2AmFix.lha
> but that's probably not useful to you.
>
> Its small and could be hidden deep in a directory tree, so no one would
> know it was you (apart from yourself, of course).
>
> I'd be interested to know if PC2Amiga works in windows9x, btw.
> If it doesn't - one more laughable aspect of windows.

Thanks, I'll give this a try sometime soon.


Regards

        Sandy

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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:16:37 +0000
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Hello Mikey

On 01-Mar-00, you wrote:

>> Sort of OT, has anyone seen amiga.org recently? You gotta check out
> the
>> news on the "revolutionary zero-footprint PC" made me laugh ;)
>>
> Made me laugh too! Revolutionary? Hardly :)
>
> Unfortunatley the Windoze Sheep will think it so.

Hmm. It always happens. Have you noticed how far up the keyboard the keys
actually are? That can't be comfortable, and how exactly are you supposed
to put expansion cards in there?

Oh, you don't...

Regards

        Sandy

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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:27:10 +0000
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Hello Allen

On 01-Mar-00, you wrote:

> I think you have to have a file in your ENVARC:ppc drawer called
> "nopatch" with the number 1
> in it.  So to do this just make a drawer called "powerpc" you "should"
> have it.
> and make a file, using ed, with the number 1 in it, call it "nopatch"
> and you should be ok when you next boot.

Sorry, could you repeat that...

(I'm having probs with ppclib emulation too)


Regards

        Sandy

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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:32:03 +0000
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Hello xatiminey

On 01-Mar-00, you wrote:

>> If you want to transfer data between a Windows PC and an Amiga
>> (using what we call a LapLink cable), you can simply install a
>> "direct cable connection" on the PC, use the PLIP protocol in Miami
>> and use telnet from the PC to open a shell on the Amiga via the
>> TCP device.
> but ye already got a TCP/IP link.
> and you get even faster transfer rates with PC2Amigas custom cable.

Don't have one, and I could do without *another* cable.

> btw, Sandy, wouldn't you get better performance for quake if you used
> it's own null modem multiplayer option.

Warpquake doesn't have this option, and I can't get other ppc quakes to work
on the miggy just now. I'll try when I have more spare time :-/

> -curry (trying to put out the fire before it burns afb down)

Here's an electronic bucket of water. Oh, it's just flowed straight through
the keyboard, starting another fire. Damn. :-)


Regards

        Sandy

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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:18:42 +0000
From: "Jonathan M. Dudley" <[e-mail]>
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Paul Laycock wrote:

> Sorry to break it to you like this, but yeh! Its that only way anyone
> ever did licenses... ;) I think it was in AF5. Never owned (or played)
> the game, mind you!

If you're thinking of "Tintin on the Moon" by Infogrames then I'm proud to
announce that it's in my collection of old, barely-played games.  :)

It's a platform level followed by a steer-the-ship-to-avoid-the-asteroids
level (and so on, about eight times each) until you reach the moon. The
graphics weren't bad, but that's about it. Hmm... never did reach the moon.

Regards,
Jonny.


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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2000 20:33:21 +0000
From: "Jonathan M. Dudley" <[e-mail]>
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gaz wrote:

> has anyone found or used a editor for Adoom for the amiga?
> i know there is one available for pc owners...
> if so could you email me the location if possible

If you mean a WAD editor then yes, there is a version of DEU (Doom Editing
Utilities) for the Amiga. A search of Aminet or AFCDs will produce it.

Failing that, if you can run Shapeshifter or Fusion, there's a Mac version
of DEU or, better yet, Hellmaker (I've long since lost the URLs so you'll
need to search the web).

Hope that helps,
Jonny.

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From: "Anthony Prime" <[e-mail]>
Date: 1 Mar 2000 19:28:01 +0000
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Hi

I aquired a modem for my Psion series 5 and was struggling to set it
up.

The manual was as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike, so I sent Psion
an email that was, in hindsight, a little curt (Heck, it could have
been written by Neil Bothwick himself ;)

In the meantime I sorted it out, but the guys at Psion were more than
a match for me. I've just had to download a 2mb PDF file, over my
standard A1200 serial port :(

Bah.
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